“it is not, russia started this mess and managed to unite all of EU and NATO against it, if they would not have stept over ukrainian borders they would not have been in this mess, also supporting seperatists for 8 years and call for a UN intervention is kinda hillarius to be honest.”
Separatists.
That’s what you call Ukrainians who don’t submit to Washington’s rule over Ukraine after the US:
— overthrew the democratically elected government in 2014, and
— dismissed the overwhelming voting preference of Ukrainians in 2019, for Ukraine’s implementation of Minsk and settlement with Russia.
I know its all hilarious fun, and games. A lot of people today live in a fantasy world, with all connections to reality completely severed. I don’t know what they’re doing. Just floating around on air.
In the fantasy world, Russia is disinterested in US direct threats to its existence, e.g., ruling over Ukraine and turning it into a US military platform, stage for America’s neocon “plan” to pressure, weaken, and bust up Russia into pieces for its own consumption.
I can’t solve problems delusionists create in their own minds. I’ll take my advice from the author of the Long Telegram instead, George Kennan, father of the Cold War. Check what he said:
https://whileican.substack.com/p/jeffrey-sachs-must-be-a-deranged
Here’s Andrew Mather, a Brit, with a summary.
Andrew Mather writes:
“My comment: So the (formerly) British armed forces edge closer to Ukraine, just to be handy and available. I will remain proudly British to the day I die, am not anti-war, and revered the armed forces that fought for centuries through to the Falklands included for Britain. Then everything changed, and with the fall of the Soviet Union, Britain's forces were delegated to fight for the neocons. 1990/1991 Iraq 1, oil; 2000 (2003) - 2020+ enemies of a certain middle eastern country; sad, but I wished them well and was glad they were mostly safe. Now however they have crossed the line, as have our politicians. To whitewash the west's role in overthrowing a govt, installing one of Nuland's preference, arming and training them and standing by as for eight years they shelled civilian towns (continuing literally to this day) for the crime of being ethnic Russian? That is not even close to being ethical, but it allows the west to present Putin's finally taking action as 'aggression', and so the neocons get their war. Their ideological loyalties are to American exceptionalism (handing Ukrainian natural resources to Biden/Pelosi families as an aside) and to a certain middle eastern country. Their ancestral loyalty is to their eastern european homeland (check their bios), and their chosen enemy is Russia, the land they fled. That is not our story. It is not a British story. It is their story, and so to fight for them is to fight as mercenaries for a foreign power, a first I believe in centuries of history. But to fight for proudly self-declaring N*z*s who call burning protesters alive "a proud day for the nation"? (Right Sector); who conduct reprisal killings (white armbands on the victims indicates sympathetic to Russia); who shoot POWs and film themselves doing so? Those are acts worthy of their WW2 namesakes, and my father's generation did not fight to eradicate that ideology just for Britain to turn around and support it in obedience to the neocons. You are no longer British forces in my eyes, merely mercenaries subservient like the politicians to a foreign power. I never thought I'd see the day.””
Other aspects of delusional fantasy are revealed. You say: “…managed to unite all of the EU and NATO.” <<< here’s some dose of hilarious. Funny >> A few weeks ago it was “the WHOLE WORLD”. Now it’s the whole of EU and NATO. << And there’s the howler: the EU and NATO are apparati of control. It’s so funny. You think it’s about free association, free choices, independent evaluation arriving at unanimity.
Again I can’t solve problems delusionists create in their own minds. But yeah, go on with the hilarious fun and games delusionist fantasies. We’ve seen the result before. Over and over again. This time will be no different, other than, worse than before.